Lets wrench power back from the billionaires

first_img 136 137 collapsed Loading comments… Trouble loading? Bernie Sanders If we stand together against powerful special interests we can eliminate poverty, increase life expectancy and tackle climate change Share on Twitter Show 11 more replies Quiche78 15 Jan 2018 11:55 Share on Facebook Twitter Reply VardysPartySupplies 53 54 Share 15 Jan 2018 11:22 Share Bernie Sanders and Mark Jacobson | Pick Report Report 15 Jan 2018 15 Jan 2018 11:33 Reply Facebook Threads collapsed Report The American people – not Big Oil – must decide our climate future Share on Twitter Since you’re here… Facebook Facebook 10 11 comment Share on Facebook Sorry there was an error. Please try again later. If the problem persists, please contact Userhelp 15 Jan 2018 13:20 Reply | Pick Share on WhatsApp Share on Facebook Support The Guardian “With the explosion in advanced technology and the breakthroughs this has brought, we now have the capability to substantially increase global wealth fairly”. What does that mean? Surely the way things are going the owners of these technologies are the ones hoovering up most of the new wealth that’s been created in the developed world, whilst for most others costs rise faster than incomes. So far all I’ve seen from governments in terms of utilizing the sector is weak pleas to these companies to maybe pay a bit more tax. Guardian Pick Currently the world seems to me to be comprised of three very distinct classes: those who worship at the altar of money, those who slavishly worship the cult of personality, and those who are too busy dodging bombs, drones, bullets and poverty to even have a moment to consider the former. 15 Jan 2018 12:29 Report 97fe47az1zayrde8102 Facebook Report Reply Read more ID2447392 97fe47az1zayrde8102 Share on Twitter All Share on Facebook Report Facebook Share 246 247 Facebook Facebook 18 19 Twitter 8 9 15 Jan 2018 11:29 Order by oldest Share 4 5 | Pick 311 312 BevanBoyAus 3 Share Reply indeed. and remember Senator Wellstone — don’t get on any small planes. just sayin’ Sign in or create your Guardian account to recommend a comment | Pick Twitter Elephantmoth JaneCohen Twitter 4 Share on Twitter happylittledebunkera Zepp People may think that Bernie’s prescription sounds naive, idealistic and utopian. 15 Jan 2018 11:08 | Pick Share Reply TragicomedyBeholder Share on Twitter AndromedaDeadface Share on Facebook Share on Facebook Twitter Yohdur Ezajur_Rahman | Pick Share on Twitter Share 25 It was a setback, not a defeat. Twitter Share on Facebook 7 8 Facebook Ezajur_Rahman Facebook | Pick Report 15 Jan 2018 11:15 Share Reply Bernie, you have opposed recent tax cuts – suggesting that they should have been made permanent. Are you now prepared to back the GOP’s repeated attempts to make them permanent? OR is this just more partisan politics dressed up in waffle? How? Vote for people with that vision, like Bernie Sanders. 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If all of these competing groups under the “99%” banner actually banded together, things could change. But as it is, every group seems hell-bent on racing towards its own “0.004%” title and then going bananas when they lack the influence to actually instigate change. Share People don’t really care about how rich the few are, if they think they are doing okay, and they don’t really care about the really poor people, like homeless people as they think it will never happen to them. The Romans had it right with bread and circuses. While the masses are fed and entertained it seems they have little will to take the ‘risk’ of upsetting the satus quo and voting for real change. The only ones who think that Sanders vs Trump would, without question resulted in Sanders as President are the “no brainers” | Pick | Pick Reply BevanBoyAus BEEFCRAB Facebook 15 Jan 2018 12:50 still holding onto that bitterness, eh? hope the fact that the USA has President Trump gives you plenty of “I told you so” opportunities Share on Facebook 15 Jan 2018 12:07 15 Jan 2018 13:48 Pfungwa Share on Twitter 36 37 He is needed. But he has done his part. Great man! 4 5 15 Jan 2018 11:30 7 8 Reply Facebook 22 23 Show 8 more replies TragicomedyBeholder 15 Jan 2018 13:37 36 37 Share on Facebook Reply Stopped clocks and all that. As Popes go, the current one seems to believe in living a fairly simple lifestyle in comparison to some of his predecessors. Hmm .. Clinton or Sanders … it’s a thinker. Result = Trump. Facebook Share on Twitter 15 Jan 2018 14:36 15 Jan 2018 11:19 23 24 Most politicians, political parties and pretty well all of the media describe Corbyn and Sanders as extremists, even today and despite the evidence over the past years. The UK Labor party expelled tens of thousands of members in an attempt to stop Corbyn winning the leadership ballot and the media continue to criticize Corbyn for not allowing the free market extremists Labor members to dictate Labor’s policies. The same groupings allow extremists… Share on Facebook Reston Twitter Twitter Share on Twitter 1 justanotherflyboy Share on Facebook Plutocracy, like monarchy and property, is heritable. Good man Bernie! Love your work! People may think that Bernie’s prescription sounds naive, idealistic and utopian. But as the uber rich keep getting richer and richer, and the fruits of their labour drive those beneath them further and further down, as he says, what he’s advocating will become absolutely necessary – an imperative. It’s just a matter of whether we act before we have to, out of desperation, or if we wait til the shit well and truly hits the fan. My money’s on the latter, I’m afraid… Share on Twitter 1 Share on Twitter which is pretty droll since most yanks pay more taxes than those in socialist countries and get damn little for it Share on Facebook 15 Jan 2018 11:08 Facebook Share on Twitter You probably hit the nail on the head. There’s a multi-million dollar statue in Chicago to honor a billionaire basketball player while Jonas Salk is buried in an unmarked grave, for example. But last election a significant number of voters did vote against the status quo. Share on Twitter fformat Share 15 Jan 2018 14:49 justanotherflyboy Share on Facebook Share 12 13 Twitter Oh, Bernie. I was with you until you quoted the Pope. How does the wealth of the Roman Catholic Church and its opposition to birth control – so crucial to lifting women, and whole populations, out of poverty – square with your ideals? Facebook 15 Jan 2018 12:22 | Pick 6 7 Facebook | Pick Email (optional) 48 49 Twitter Reply Ok, so believe the world’s scientific organisations instead, all of which confirm the anthropogenic source of current global warming and climate change. Share on Facebook Share on Facebook Reply Share Reply Share recommendations Should have been Sanders or Sanders… its a no brainer. Result = Bernie 22 23 133 134 Share Share on Twitter Share on Twitter Share on Facebook Reply Facebook Ezajur_Rahman | Pick Kickthismobout Share on Twitter Share on Facebook Facebook Twitter This anti-communist lesson is still being hammered home by West, even as Russian and Ukrainian former-communists pile into the 1%. 15 Jan 2018 13:15 Share Share on Facebook Facebook Share on Facebook | Pick Share Bernie Sanders and Al Gore on solving the climate crisis 63 64 Share on Twitter Share on Twitter Share on Facebook | Pick 15 Jan 2018 11:31 Report Twitter Share on Twitter Opinion Share on Twitter Show 12 more replies 99 100 Congratulations, you win a participation award! 21 22 Twitter 97fe47az1zayrde8102 145 146 Reply 9 10 happylittledebunkera Reply Report happylittledebunkera | Pick Show 3 more replies Reply Tom3562 Report | Unpick At the same time, all over the world corrupt elites, oligarchs and anachronistic monarchies spend billions on the most absurd extravagances. The Sultan of Brunei owns some 500 Rolls-Royces and lives in one of the world’s largest palaces, a building with 1,788 rooms once valued at $350m. In the Middle East, which boasts five of the world’s 10 richest monarchs, young royals jet-set around the globe while the region suffers from the highest youth unemployment rate in the world, and at least 29 million children are living in poverty without access to decent housing, safe water or nutritious food. Moreover, while hundreds of millions of people live in abysmal conditions, the arms merchants of the world grow increasingly rich as governments spend trillions of dollars on weapons.In the United States, Jeff Bezos – founder of Amazon, and currently the world’s wealthiest person – has a net worth of more than $100bn. He owns at least four mansions, together worth many tens of millions of dollars. As if that weren’t enough, he is spending $42m on the construction of a clock inside a mountain in Texas that will supposedly run for 10,000 years. But, in Amazon warehouses across the country, his employees often work long, gruelling hours and earn wages so low they rely on Medicaid, food stamps and public housing paid for by US taxpayers.Not only that, but at a time of massive wealth and income inequality, people all over the world are losing their faith in democracy – government by the people, for the people and of the people. They increasingly recognise that the global economy has been rigged to reward those at the top at the expense of everyone else, and they are angry.Millions of people are working longer hours for lower wages than they did 40 years ago, in both the United States and many other countries. They look on, feeling helpless in the face of a powerful few who buy elections, and a political and economic elite that grows wealthier, even as their own children’s future grows dimmer.In the midst of all of this economic disparity, the world is witnessing an alarming rise in authoritarianism and rightwing extremism – which feeds off, exploits and amplifies the resentments of those left behind, and fans the flames of ethnic and racial hatred. ScrofulousPig Reply Report reinhardpolley Facebook Show 4 more replies Twitter Report Three houses is quite different than three mansions…. though I’m sure you feel better now that you’ve been disparaging to someone who is at least trying to unite people for the better of all. You offer what? NotIdefix Share on Facebook 286 287 Twitter VelmaDinkley Share on Facebook Facebook 97fe47az1zayrde8102 220 221 Jump to comment 7 8 15 Jan 2018 11:20 irisbjones 15 Jan 2018 11:21 Yohdur Report Report Share on Facebook Etagere 15 Jan 2018 12:33 next Report Report Twitter | Pick kmacafee If you take the Corporate Shill party out in every upcoming election in this Country you can change the laws and then in 2020 your new and DEMOCRATICALLY Elected President would have the US arsenal to back up any decision the people needed to. One person One Vote means the 3 Million more that voted against the current President were denied democratic rights and that should be rectified. The Americans from Puerto Rico should move to Florida and get their rights by voting against the Party that is Still Ignoring their plight so that their Donors are helped out instead. BYEBYE Republicans you showed what and who you serve. VardysPartySupplies 97 98 Reply Share Share on Twitter Share Well said, Bernie. I would urge readers her, and Bernie himself if he has not already got a copy, to read Aneurin Bevan’s In Place of Fear which sets out clearly and concisely the on going conflict between property, poverty and democracy and his summary that says “Either poverty will use democracy to destroy property or property, in fear of poverty will destroy democracy” As we have seen over the last 40 years property (the rich) are well on the way to destroying democracy in order to maintain its power over poverty (the majority of people). Democratic socialism is the only way forward for a peaceful and caring world and the rich know it which is why every time a socialist government is elected by the people the rich set about destroying it either by economic warfare or by direct military subversion or actual warfare. Even a tiny nation like Cuba is seen as threat to the mighty USA and its people are prevented from free trade with the rest of the world because the rich in the USA fear a successful socialist regime on its doorstep could cause their own citizens to want to adopt it. From US and British intervention in the fledgling USSR to the long list of countries deliberately destabilized by US and British interference since then, and the ongoing Middle East wars that can be traced back to the duplicity of the French, British and USA during and after WWI, true democracy of the people has been ruthlessly attacked and we are now even witnessing the attack being leveled at our own people and our own very shaky democracies. As Jack London related in “The Iron Heel” the rich will not willingly hand over their power to the people but the people will inevitably win the struggle. We must if we are to survive, along with the world that sustains us. VardysPartySupplies irisbjones Share on Twitter | Pick Facebook Reply comments (1915)Sign in or create your Guardian account to join the discussion. i believe the shit hitting the fan is a fait accompli 35 36 One way to change that… 3 4 Share Share on Facebook Piketty is an economist and writes from a political perspective. There’s more. Since Piketty published his book in 2013, there has been an as yet small but nonetheless unmistakable sea change in the political tide all across the western world. And once that tide starts running properly there will be only two alternatives. One will be a Bernie Sanders’ type redistribution of wealth through the channels of democratic government. The other will be a breakdown of the current political dispensation and a redistribution the old fashioned way – through bloody revolution. It may take 5 years, 10 years, or 30 years, but the current dispensation is unsustainable and is destined to be either revised or overturned.History is your guide. Report Show 8 more replies ScrofulousPig | Pick Share … Share Reply Report Reply Facebook next Share on Facebook Share Report 15 Jan 2018 13:59 Well said, Bernie. I would urge readers her, and Bernie himself if he has not already got a copy, to read Aneurin Bevan’s In Place of Fear which sets out clearly and concisely the on going conflict between property, poverty and democracy and his summary that says “Either poverty will use democracy to destroy property or property, in fear of poverty will destroy democracy” As we have seen over the last 40 years property (the rich) are well on the… Jump to comment Facebook Facebook The UK has plenty of inherited wealth, hidden in trust funds and tax havens, that will never be taxed. Aye and most of those tax havens have Her Majesty the Queen as their Head of State and one of the most active stashers of the royal families loot. Twitter 114 115 Share on Facebook Share on Facebook Because virtually no Americans speak Danish or Swedish? They wouldn’t meet the requirements to easily immigrate to either country? I mean, was that even a serious question? (Rhetorical, or otherwise?) Share on Twitter Reply ScrofulousPig Facebook | Pick Share on Twitter 9 10 15 Jan 2018 11:36 Share on Facebook Reply Twitter Share on Facebook Share on Facebook Share Share 2 12 13 97fe47az1zayrde8102 | Pick Report nosteril look no farther than the isle of man yeah maybe, or else, you know, those desperate for change would have voted bernie Twitter Share on Twitter Share on Facebook Share on Twitter | Pick | Pick Report sbmfc1991 97fe47az1zayrde8102 Share on Twitter Quiche78 Share Report Due to the large number of comments, they are being shown 100 per page. Reply Share on Twitter Sun 14 Jan 2018 14.33 EST TragicomedyBeholder kmacafee Share on Twitter Share on LinkedIn Share on Twitter 100 Share on Twitter Quiche78 Report Twitter Twitter Sadly people in West have become addicted to consumer baubles, and cannot survive without them. So we trade our human worth for this useless stuff. Share on Twitter | Pick Facebook Share on Facebook NotIdefix Kickthismobout Take care of yourself, Senator Do not let age sap your strength. You may yet be needed Sei gesind. bernie would have won Twitter Share on Facebook Reuse this content,View all comments > | Pick Report 15 Jan 2018 Twitter | Pick Elephantmoth … we have a small favour to ask. The Guardian will engage with the most critical issues of our time – from the escalating climate catastrophe to widespread inequality to the influence of big tech on our lives. At a time when factual information is a necessity, we believe that each of us, around the world, deserves access to accurate reporting with integrity at its heart.More people are reading and supporting The Guardian’s independent, investigative journalism than ever before. 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Thank you. fformat 15 Jan 2018 11:31 Report 15 Jan 2018 13:50 Share 15 Jan 2018 11:09 35 36 Share on Facebook Show 7 more replies Share on Pinterest | Pick | Pick SeanoQ I see the right wing are well and truly represented here. Go for it Bernie, we need people like you in this world. 18 19 Twitter Twitter View more comments Reply Share Share Reply Twitter | Pick Facebook Share Twitter Yohdur 15 Jan 2018 12:28 Twitter More unites us than divides us in the human family. Report BevanBoyAus can’t help you re Labor spinelessness in Oz, but the Dems, well, they are either gonna change their ways, or we’ll leave them in the dust. not like they haven’t had plenty of time, most of which they wasted, to get things sorted. yup. -a.v. Share on Facebook Share Twitter 15 Jan 2018 12:33 28 29 Quiche78 Share on Twitter 13 14 Guardian Pick Report Share on Twitter Share Report 15 Jan 2018 12:51 Share Report 15 Jan 2018 12:07 Share 15 Jan 2018 11:05 Share 15 Jan 2018 12:39 The entire point is that one person is not a savior with all the answers. Ideas are presented and then, hopefully, collaboration begins to start solving these huge problems. Your ilk demeans those who try to start this journey with nothing but your empty criticism. How smart you are! But your same ilk never even tries to solve anything yourself from your armchairs – your only contribution is negativity. Facebook Twitter Report Share manu__ babymamaboy | Pick Report ScrofulousPig Twitter | Pick 36 37 Excellent article Mr Sanders – and the fightback is already under way. Twitter VelmaDinkley elliot2511 Facebook Until voters elect senators and representatives to congress and state legislators who enact laws that eliminate the influence of billionaires, our country will continue to be governed in favor of the wealthy. Wrenching power back from billionaires is on us. What are you going to do? Reply VardysPartySupplies Report Here is where we are as a planet in 2018: after all of the wars, revolutions and international summits of the past 100 years, we live in a world where a tiny handful of incredibly wealthy individuals exercise disproportionate levels of control over the economic and political life of the global community.Difficult as it is to comprehend, the fact is that the six richest people on Earth now own more wealth than the bottom half of the world’s population – 3.7 billion people. Further, the top 1% now have more money than the bottom 99%. Meanwhile, as the billionaires flaunt their opulence, nearly one in seven people struggle to survive on less than $1.25 (90p) a day and – horrifyingly – some 29,000 children die daily from entirely preventable causes such as diarrhoea, malaria and pneumonia. 18 19 Share on Facebook Facebook Share on Facebook Let’s wrench power back from the billionaires | Pick Reply Facebook Report Share on Twitter Report Share on Twitter Pfungwa Twitter Love you Bernie! In a sea of absolute sh$t you’re a liferaft of hope and a beacon of deceny | Pick Share via Email Reply Share Share on Facebook Ezajur_Rahman Share on Twitter Twitter 15 Jan 2018 11:54 Report Reply manu__ Facebook Share Report Reply Share on Facebook Share on Facebook Twitter Share on Twitter Basically the “socialism” Bernie promotes is in accord with constitutional and religious values. | Pick Yes, all these ‘territories’ are the remains of past empires where opportunities abound for underhand deals, safe from the scrutiny of democratic institutions. Puerto Rico still has half the country without utilities because it isn’t really a colony and isn’t really independent of the US, and arguing the toss can run and run forever, while making lots of money for lawyers and bureaucrats. Same with Haiti and numerous other small territories who are too small to defend themselves against predatory practices. The same tax havens that are used for individual reasons by the super-rich are also the ones used for international money-laundering and organised crime. There is obviously a big problem here, and one with a number of solutions so clearly identified by Bernie Sanders in this article. Share Pfungwa Last modified on Mon 15 Jan 2018 13.47 EST 15 Jan 2018 11:08 A bit like when Mormonism, or Scientology is mentioned in an op-ed. Reply Share Facebook Share on Facebook Report Twitter Share on Twitter | Pick Share on Twitter Twitter Pfungwa Twitter | Pick Share bilco Facebook Share on Twitter Fareaststeve | Pick | Pick Reply 15 Jan 2018 11:46 5 6 312 313 Reply Facebook Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Twitter Guardian Pick Ezajur_Rahman | Pick ScrofulousPig 15 Jan 2018 11:18 Paul Felix Reply Such a movement must overcome “the cult of money” and “survival of the fittest” mentalities that the pope warned against. decency (doh!) Share on Facebook Share sammy3110 Report Share on Twitter AndromedaDeadface | Pick 34 35 @SenSanders Facebook 15 Jan 2018 11:26 17 18 neighbour2 15 Jan 2018 11:08 Facebook Share on Facebook 62 63 Report Reply Show 3 more replies JuanVictor Facebook Twitter Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Facebook 15 Jan 2018 13:24 Reply Share “He owns at least four mansions…” One more than Senator Sanders then. http://www.newsweek.com/bernie-sanders-criticized-twitter-users-having-three-houses-587721 You can ignore most of what Bernie Sanders says. As with Al Gore, its evident from his behaviour that he doesn’t actually believe a word of his own rhetoric. Twitter Twitter Facebook Reply Share on Twitter 15 Jan 2018 11:31 | Pick 15 Jan 2018 12:42 | Pick Fareaststeve Share Reply Twitter Report Twitter Twitter Share on Twitter 3 Reply Now, more than ever, those of us who believe in democracy and progressive government must bring low-income and working people all over the world together behind an agenda that reflects their needs. Instead of hate and divisiveness, we must offer a message of hope and solidarity. We must develop an international movement that takes on the greed and ideology of the billionaire class and leads us to a world of economic, social and environmental justice. Will this be an easy struggle? Certainly not. But it is a fight that we cannot avoid. The stakes are just too high.As Pope Francis correctly noted in a speech at the Vatican in 2013: “We have created new idols. The worship of the golden calf of old has found a new and heartless image in the cult of money and the dictatorship of an economy which is faceless and lacking any truly humane goal.” He continued: “Today everything comes under the laws of competition and the survival of the fittest, where the powerful feed upon the powerless. As a consequence, masses of people find themselves excluded and marginalised: without work, without possibilities, without any means of escape.”A new and international progressive movement must commit itself to tackling structural inequality both between and within nations. Such a movement must overcome “the cult of money” and “survival of the fittest” mentalities that the pope warned against. It must support national and international policies aimed at raising standards of living for poor and working-class people – from full employment and a living wage to universal higher education, healthcare and fair trade agreements. In addition, we must rein in corporate power and prevent the environmental destruction of our planet as a result of climate change.Here is just one example of what we have to do. Just a few years ago, the Tax Justice Network estimated that the wealthiest people and largest corporations throughout the world have been stashing at least $21tn-$32tn in offshore tax havens in order to avoid paying their fair share of taxes. If we work together to eliminate offshore tax abuse, the new revenue that would be generated could put an end to global hunger, create hundreds of millions of new jobs, and substantially reduce extreme income and wealth inequality. It could be used to move us aggressively toward sustainable agriculture and to accelerate the transformation of our energy system away from fossil fuels and towards renewable sources of power.Taking on the greed of Wall Street, the power of gigantic multinational corporations and the influence of the global billionaire class is not only the moral thing to do – it is a strategic geopolitical imperative. Research by the United Nations development programme has shown that citizens’ perceptions of inequality, corruption and exclusion are among the most consistent predictors of whether communities will support rightwing extremism and violent groups. When people feel that the cards are stacked against them and see no way forward for legitimate recourse, they are more likely to turn to damaging solutions that only exacerbate the problem. Share on Twitter Share on Twitter Reply Report Report JuanVictor Show 13 more replies 5 6 Illustration by Nathalie Lees. 15 Jan 2018 11:05 Report 15 Jan 2018 11:22 10 11 This is a pivotal moment in world history. With the explosion in advanced technology and the breakthroughs this has brought, we now have the capability to substantially increase global wealth fairly. The means are at our disposal to eliminate poverty, increase life expectancy and create an inexpensive and non-polluting global energy system.This is what we can do if we have the courage to stand together and take on the powerful special interests who simply want more and more for themselves. This is what we must do for the sake of our children, grandchildren and the future of our planet.• Bernie Sanders is a US senator for Vermont Report BUT only ONE side EXPOSED themselves giving their DONORS a 1,5 TRILLION dollar Tax break and that was the REPUBLICAN party so lets start with them okay? Twitter Facebook Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Ralph Avery Tom3562 “The fightback is under way” Is it? Certainly not in the US with the democrats running round with seemingly less direction than a headless chicken. Yes Bernie is right and yes Trump is the definition of disgusting but are we any closer to understanding what the Democrats stand for than we were in November 2016? I don’t think so. And Labor here in Australia even in the face of the worst government we’ve had in decades is still nothing more than a pathetic talking point reactionary, opinion poll driven patronising set of gutless and spineless sycophants. “what do we want” the crowd cries, “we’re not sure but if you tell us we’ll demand they give it to you” said the ‘principled socialists’. So who is it that’s fighting back? 9 10 Robert Rudolph How about the billionaire that the Hollywood limo liberals and the neolib media are pushing for POTUS? Both sides prop up billionaires. peacefulmilitant Reply Share Share on Facebook Share Share on Twitter Twitter Topics Etagere Facebook Facebook Share justanotherflyboy Report Reply Share | Pick Share Twitter Share on Facebook Share 15 Jan 2018 12:03 peacefulmilitant babymamaboy Jump to comment Report BEEFCRAB It doesn’t sound naive, idealistic and utopian. It is naive, idealistic and utopian (at least if we take it too seriously). But that’s not the biggest problem with it. It does explain why it is so popular with the young though. Share Share on Twitter Share on Facebook sammy3110 Twitter Reply Reply Reply Share on Messenger Report Share on Facebook Rivelinosleftfoot The shit has already hit the fan. The next two elections are going to be a bloodbath for the billionaire party. Reply probably because more Clinton supporters would have voted for Bernie Share on Facebook Clueless as ever, here is what Sanders said”That’s why we should’ve made the tax breaks for the middle class permanent. But what the Republicans did is made the tax breaks for corporations permanent, the tax breaks for the middle class temporary,”,” The GOP made no attempt to make income tax cuts permanent, their bill only gives corporations a permanent tax cut while giving middle class taxpayers only temporary tax cuts that will run out by 2027.http://dailycaller.com/2017/12/24/bernie-applauds-middle-class-tax-cuts-as-a-very-good-thing-video/ Share on Twitter Twitter GreyBags Share on Facebook Share on Twitter 162 163 86 87 Report The Democrats need to purge themselves of the poison left by the Clintons and their ilk. Fractelle 15 Jan 2018 13:12 Share on Twitter Reply Reply Facebook Share | Pick Share on Twitter 111 112 Share Facebook Report He’d appoint you to his inner circle in the White House. But you got to get him – or his surrogate -into the White House first. Bernie 2020! | Pick 15 Jan 2018 11:28 Report 10 11 Inequality 42 43 Share Facebook elliot2511 Read more Read more I see that you are unable to distinguish between a house and a mansion. I’m scarcely surprised. Reply 25 26 Share on Facebook Reply | Pick 15 Jan 2018 11:51 Share Report Facebook | Pick Show 22 more replies Reply Report Share on Twitter Report Reply Facebook Reply 6 7 Facebook Report I’ll support Bernie when he names George Soros as billionaire enemy number 1. | Pick 15 Jan 2018 11:43 30 31 Comments 1,915 Share Facebook Share on Facebook Share on Facebook Reply Twitter JaneCohen Report Twitter happylittledebunkera | Pick Zepp Share on Facebook oldest JuanVictor Share Facebook Political will can be changed rapidly. It changed in Russia early last century and in France another century before that.Those that pull the strings understand one thing, and operate in one way – via FORCE Twitter Report Reply Robert Rudolph Facebook Share on Twitter Ralph Avery “Please OBernie Wan, you’re our only hope” Reply 7 8 15 Jan 2018 11:33 Share on Facebook 15 Jan 2018 11:18 | Pick Twitter runningscared 18 19 Doesnt said pope represent one of the richest organisations in the world? They were the trailblazers in this whole sorry debacle – the cheek of the man astounds me! Share on Facebook 15 Jan 2018 Sadly there isn’t the political will. The UK has plenty of inherited wealth, hidden in trust funds and tax havens, that will never be taxed. I don’t forsee the Tories doing anything that acutely hurts them and their core voter base Report Show 24 more replies Share on Facebook Did you rip that from the Trump campaign? Or has Sanders publicly and repeatedly stated that only he can solve the nation’s problems and I just missed it? Share on Twitter Share Facebook Contact author bilco Report | Pick Report Twitter Twitter Report 15 Jan 2018 11:32 Reply Report Report wrench power back from the billionaires So Bernie Sanders wants to change the system. Well, good luck with that. He had some glimmer of hope until power was wrenched away from him by Mrs Clinton. A great opportunity sadly missed. | Pick Reply Show 28 more replies Yohdur 22 23 Share on Twitter Report 286 287 40 41 Insouciant1 Twitter | Pick Share 15 Jan 2018 13:15 Share | Pick Report Share expanded | Pick 44 45 15 Jan 2018 12:15 Reply unthreaded Willthebear I care, bet a few more here do too. Funny how many people seem to think what they think is what ‘many’ or ‘most’ think. VelmaDinkley Share americans were taught during the cold war that socialism is a gateway to godless communism and they never got over thatsince most never travel abroad they were easily brainwashed that people in socialist countries were dying in the streets from hunger and disease, or are otherwise taxed to deathwhich is pretty droll since most yanks pay more taxes than those in socialist countries and get damn little for it Report bilco 54 55 8 9 Twitter Reply bacon of decadence (double doh!) Share on Facebook Reply … Facebook | Pick Report UnderSurveillance Call it what you like, but it was a sadly missed opportunity due to egoism and greed. … Meanwhile the sickening irony is that the socialism which Bernie Sanders is trying to promote – and which has been widely misunderstood, the meaning of the word itself having been wrenched away from its correct meaning – is actually alive and well. For the protectionism which comes with state capitalism ensures the prolongation of the essential beneficial principles of socialism for the global plutonomy, while the harsh consequences of state capitalism are suffered by the rest of us – the global precariat. Twitter Twitter 15 Jan 2018 12:44 Report 33 34 Share on Facebook 121 122 Reply newest 29 30 24 25 VelmaDinkley I was, of course, generalising. No one ‘knows’ what other people think. But, in a democracy you know how people vote. And so far, not much really changes. Facebook 15 Jan 2018 11:27 Share | Pick Twitter Share | Pick | Pick Everyone knows we are being screwed but we cannot set things right by making hash tags and all sorts of inspiring statements. Voting in the RIGHT candidates ,mobilizing communities taking money out of their hand by spending local..it takes work but it can be done Share on Facebook Report Ralph Avery Share Share Report Facebook Report Fareaststeve | Pick Elephantmoth Twitter 5 6 Twitter but how can that work if millions vote against their best interest Report 15 Jan 2018 12:15 Yohdur 13 14 Facebook bilco Share on Facebook Share Share on Twitter Twitter Reply Report Share on Facebook Share on Twitter As Pope Francis correctly noted in a speech at the Vatican in 2013 4 5 Many of these 1% also have media and military power at their disposal, and/or are not constrained legally by any National Government, so passing laws to curb their power is almost impossible unless it’s done globally. Fat chance of that ever happening. But one can try to build trans-national unity, while nationalist and populist forces pull in the other direction, often with backing from the 1%. Share on Twitter Facebook Show 8 more replies 2 3 | Pick | Pick Twitter Share on Facebook Twitter The next Labour government should be the one that removes tax haven status from our crown dependencies and overseas territories. The places where our wealthiest citizens store their fortunes were left relying on aid money when the hurricanes hit last year, this system clearly doesn’t work for the majority of us. nosteril 13 14 97fe47az1zayrde8102 Twitter peacefulmilitant Twitter Facebook 15 Jan 2018 13:26 Share | Pick | Pick Billionaires control 90%+ money in the very system which is supposed to “wrench” them, don’t think this “wrenching” is gonna work bernie. Everything from politics to military is controlled by rich corporations and their owners(or boards). Financial crisis are used to remind people that a job(for a corporation/billionaire) is everything they should aspire for, and preserving the rights and money of corporations is much more important than basic rights of people. If you wish to fight corporations or billionaires, fight the urge of central banks and governments to push for easier option of quantitative easing over long term restructuring of an economy. Long term investment in core tech sectors and new approach on higher education(without debt) is needed to create a whole generation of new entrepreneurs who could provide next Gen solutions. Easy money, with requirements for fast returns is stymieing long term sustainability and equality of countries for short term political and economic gains…. Except they don’t, and the American middle class pays even less. 15 Jan 2018 12:18 Facebook Share on Facebook According to Sanders Denmark and Sweden are such places. Oddly enough I don’t see a lot of Americans heading in that direction. I wonder why. 44 45 Share Share Share on Twitter Share on Twitter Reply 21 22 Share BEEFCRAB Inequality Share on Facebook Close report comment form Jump to comment 15 Jan 2018 13:19 Reply This comment was removed by a moderator because it didn’t abide by our community standards. Replies may also be deleted. For more detail see our FAQs. Get Society Weekly: our newsletter for public service professionals Facebook 15 Jan 2018 11:11 | Pick Facebook Report 24 25 Facebook Share Facebook Reply Guardian Pick Twitter Show 4 more replies “The Iron Heel” the rich will not willingly hand over their power to the people but the people will inevitably win the struggle. london is a lifelong icon of mine, but he was an incorrigible idealist to the end if the people are going to win, they had better hurry before worldwide slavery arrives which by some definitions it already has 4 | Pick Reply 97fe47az1zayrde8102 15 Jan 2018 11:21 Share on Twitter Twitter | Pick Share on Facebook Poverty Report Twitter 15 Jan 2018 12:14 15 Jan 2018 12:55 | Pick Reply Facebook Just checking: You know that “debunking” and misrepresenting are quite different things, yeah? Share Report Jayem64 UnderSurveillance Share on Twitter | Pick Facebook Share on Facebook | Pick PeteSaman | Pick 57 58 15 Jan 2018 11:58 Facebook Complaining that delusional cults are targeted by commenters, and conflating that with criticism of Sanders isn’t that helpful if you are trying to increase support for Sanders. Just a hint. Share Reply 15 Jan 2018 11:26 Share on Twitter Fareaststeve Share on Twitter Reply Share on Facebook Report 15 Jan 2018 13:53 Holierthancow Share on Facebook | Pick nosteril | Pick Reply Facebook Facebook Share Facebook | Pick greenveggie Sanders would have beaten Trump but the Democrats were still too in love with Wall Street to see the truth. Report Never mind them – just chat with your neighbors. Share on Facebook Cum on if it’s right it’s right.. Reply Twitter Share on Twitter Show 11 more replies 15 Jan 2018 11:28 | Pick | Pick justanotherflyboy This is exactly the kind of empty rhetoric that split the Democratic Party and gave us Trump. Of course things would be better if we did lots of things, but how exactly are they to be done. Some indeterminate ‘we’ is supposed to summon up some “courage” and make lots of good things happen. The next time I want to hear something from Senator Sanders it better be full of explicit details of how it is going to be brought to pass. By the way, Piketty, in Capital in the 21st Century, has already advocated a global tax on capital, which is one of Senator Sanders’ proposals in this article, but admits that it cannot be practically implemented. So, how about it, Bernie, where’s the beef? elliot2511 15 Jan 2018 11:10 elliot2511 15 Jan 2018 11:15 Report Share Share on Facebook nosteril Share via Email neighbour2 6 7 15 Jan 2018 13:36 Share on Facebook 15 Jan 2018 11:00 Share on Facebook Reply Facebook 26 27 It means that the benefits of automation should free people to work in jobs which have a great social benefit: health, caring, education and social work. The surplus value created by automated machines has to be taxed so it used for the good of society rather than funnelled upwards to further entrench Oligarchy. Alfred Venison Share Share on Twitter Let’s wrench power back from the billionaires 15 Jan 2018 13:39 Facebook Facebook 15 Jan 2018 11:43 Share | Pick Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Twitter Share on Facebook Yohdur 15 16 15 Jan 2018 11:25 Share on Twitter Share on Twitter 97fe47az1zayrde8102 Reply Share Share Reply Twitter 15 Jan 2018 15:06 Share on Facebook Facebook 15 Jan 2018 12:11 Report Twitter Report 3 4 Hmm. Including even the billionaire who wants Trump impeached? Billionaires prop up both sides… 5 6 Fareaststeve sooner or later even the harshest tyrant falls, to old age and entropy if nowt else. Mao died, Stalin died, Hitler died, they all die eventually. and if the rich will not let go of power willingly, perhaps it would be wise of them to remember Marie Antoinette. after all, Mme. la Guillotine is ever hungry and eager to help. Facebook Reply Share on Facebook Share on Facebook | Pick | Pick Show 25 Reply Share on Facebook Reply Reply Share Share on Twitter Twitter 97fe47az1zayrde8102 Report 84 85 Share on Twitter 15 Jan 2018 | Pick sammy3110 Share on Twitter Kickthismobout 15 Jan 2018 11:50 | Pick Share Twitter Ralph Avery 15 Jan 2018 11:26 I’d rather live in a world where everyone is happy, not hungry and has healthcare. 15 Jan 2018 12:38 Twitter Share Share Jayem64 iruka 5 6 Report He’s absolutely right, as far as I am concerned. I’d rather live in a world where everyone is happy, not hungry and has healthcare. Is that too much to ask? How do we fight for it though, how do we make that happen? 31 32 Share Share on Facebook Reply | Pick Report Facebook Share Share 15 Jan 2018 11:56 Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Facebook Twitter Twitter Guardian Pick 100101 Reply Share on Twitter Quite, it’s subsidised by the UK taxpayer as it can’t function under its own low tax regime. Report Report 15 Jan 2018 11:47 2 50 43 44 Share on Twitter Share on Facebook AndromedaDeadface Report Please select Personal abuse Off topic Legal issue Trolling Hate speech Offensive/Threatening language Copyright Spam Other Twitter Yeah, well.. just mentioning the nàme Bernie Sanders is bound to trigger the right-wing vultures and shit-flies. A bit like when Mormonism, or Scientology is mentioned in an op-ed.. suddenly the trolls -both professional, and non-professional, crawl from the woodworks. Like they are running bots that scan for key-words, or something. (Raises the question: why are they even rèading a rather left-wing publication like The Graun? They must be suckers for punishment. I, for instance, would rather not read The Mirror, or the Telegraph, if it can be prevented, let alone comment on their articles) Twitter 15 Jan 2018 11:30 27 28last_img

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